Remember this email from John Podesta which was one of those among the thousands revealed by Wikileaks that were on Hillary Clinton’s server?
Re: opening for a Catholic Spring? just musing . . .
We created Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good to organize for a moment like this. But I think it lacks the leadership to do so now. Likewise Catholics United. Like most Spring movements, I think this one will have to be bottom up. I’ll discuss with Tara. Kathleen Kennedy Townsend is the other person to consult.
[Sandy Newman replies]………
On 2/10/12, Sandy Newman <email@example.com> wrote: > Hi, John, > > This whole controversy with the bishops opposing contraceptive coverage even > though 98% of Catholic women (and their conjugal partners) have used > contraception has me thinking . . . There needs to be a Catholic Spring, in > which Catholics themselves demand the end of a middle ages dictatorship and > the beginning of a little democracy and respect for gender equality in the > Catholic church. Is contraceptive coverage an issue around which that could > happen. The Bishops will undoubtedly continue the fight. Does the Catholic > Hospital Association support of the Administration’s new policy, together > with “the 98%” create an opportunity? > > Of course, this idea may just reveal my total lack of understanding of the > Catholic church, the economic power it can bring to bear against nuns and > priests who count on it for their maintenance, etc. Even if the idea isn’t > crazy, I don’t qualify to be involved and I have not thought at all about > how one would “plant the seeds of the revolution,” or who would plant them. > Just wondering . . . > > Hoping you’re well, and getting to focus your time in the ways you want. > > Sandy > > Sandy Newman, President > Voices for Progress > 202.669.8754 > voicesforprogress.org > > > >
Whether you remember it or never knew it existed, there it is, calling for a change on the Catholic Church stance on contraception, “gender equality”, and to make the Church more democratic. So then, such suggestions are not made frivolously for there is an indication that Podesta and those mentioned have some influence or power to enact changes through contacts or at least that they have the power to influence; [presumably this influence would be on the American prelates, especially cardinals and those bishops who might attend a conclave].
And what has happened since this email exchange? First: Jorge Bergoglio was elected Pope 6 months later following the very strange resignation of Pope Benedict XVI, the first papal resignation in 400 years, while he still resides at the Vatican and wears the unique papal whites. Second: Marriage “equality” laws have been passed in the US and in Australia. Third: Multiple appointments have been made by Francis in favor of liberal clergy while conservative holders have been sacked. [Although Cdl. Pell, a traditionalist, was appointed to clean up the financial area, he has had to take much time out because of a possible witch hunt against him over pederasty allegations, but I am not implying that this has been deliberately orchestrated]. Four: The Pope issued an encyclical, Amoris Laetitia, which allegedly allows divorcees and those in possible unorthodox living situations to receive sacraments such as the Eucharist. This, if you are unfamiliar with RC affairs, is currently causing extreme angst, confusion and controversy.
Clearly, the trend of the Church has been to modernize and reform during this reign of Francis which has generally been criticized by many for his liberal tendencies especially in regard to ecumenist moves towards other faiths such as Islam and Judaism, while the Vatican even minted a commemorative stamp of Martin Luther.
During the Obama years, we saw his and his administration’s enmity towards the Church, while Obama himself and Francis appeared most cordial. [I will leave the reader to research such evidence]. However, on the election of Trump, Francis was most critical and negative [e.g. the row about the ‘wall’, migration and borders]. Additionally, in recent years, the American Conference of Catholic Bishops has donated millions to agencies which carry out abortions and distribute contraceptives. [For details on this, the reader can go to the detailed article by Michael Hichborn following]….
So, are Podesta’s “aims” in play? Certainly a case can be made for discussion or possible investigation. The aims of “gender equality” and reform are in progress, but what of the matter of the Church’s acceptance of contraception? Directing funds to agencies which promote artificial contraception hardly prove a change in doctrine on the matter. True, but now we come to the flagship document on the Church’s teaching – Humanae Vitae – which prohibits artificial birth control. Well, there now appear to be definite moves to re-interpret this document. Here is a very recent excerpt from an article, among others, on the thin edge of the wedge to change the doctrine ………….
“But precisely, “everything depends on how ‘Humanae vitae’ is interpreted”, does not fail to sow Pope Francis every time :. Because “the question is not that of changing the doctrine, but of going deep and making pastoral care take into account situations and what people can do”.
Said and done. To give an authoritative appearance to the new interpretative paradigm of “Humanae vitae”, with an explicit free way to artificial contraceptives, a theologian of the most accredited among the current pope, Maurizio Chiodi, professor of moral theology at the theological faculty of northern Italy and a member of the fresh nomination of the Pontifical Academy for Life, already author in 2006 of a book, “Ethics of Life”, which supported the lawfulness of artificial procreation.”
The complete article in Italian is here ……..
So far, a trend within the Church accords with the Podesta email exchange, but a question arises. Is my title justified that there is “A Deep State Catholic Spring?” albeit that it is a question? Surely Podesta and Co. do not have such influence over the Deep State. Or do they? After all, he was Hillary’s confidante, and he mentions Catholic organizations he obviously has some part of. The Waspish nature of the American oligarchy and elites is known to be anti-Catholic and has been since Foundation. But, let the speculation be done for here is evidence in a declassified document which appears real and factual.
An intro and typed copy is followed by a pic of the document which testifies to the Deep State’s direct interference in Catholic affairs………..
A telegram to the State Department of the United States of America originally “Secret” and now, declassified.
It reveals the suggestion that the Deep State in the USA manipulates American Cardinals on the election of the new Pope following the death of Pius XII.
Do we think that this only happened in America?
What does it say now about the “Siri Theory?”
What does it say about Marcantonio Colonna’s revelation of the CIA monitoring of the conclave of 2013 of the Obama backed Jorge Bergoglio?
To: Secretary of State
No: 1166, October 11, 2PM
DURING CONVERSATION WITH EMBASSY OFFICER, VATICAN SOURCE EXPRESSED PERSONAL VIEW NEXT POPE WILL BE “ELECTED’ OUTSIDE CONCLAVE BY AGREEMENT BETWEEN CARDINALS. SOURCE SAID PIUS XII ELECTED THIS MANNER AND RECALLED THAT AS CARDINALS WERE ENTERING 1939 CONCLAVE CARD FIZZARDO HAD CALLED HIM ASIDE AND ASKED HIM TO PREPARE BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCH OF PACELLI. ADDED HE CONSULTED WITH MSGR. MONTINI AND BOTH DECIDED FOR OBVIOUS REASONS NOT TO GO AHEAD WITH PIZZARDO’S REQUEST.
SPECULATING ON PIUS XII’S SUCCESSOR SOURCE SAID COLLEGE MAY VERY WELL CHOOSE AN OLD CARDINAL WHOSE SHORT PONTIFICATE MAY BE DEVOTED ENTIRELY TO THE RE-ORGANIZATION OF THE ROMAN CURIA LEFT BY DECEASED POPE IN “DEPLORABLE STATE.” SOURCE INDICATED ELECTION OF SIRI, RUFFINI, OTTAVIANI WOULD BE “MISFORTUNE FOR THE CHURCH'” SINCE THESE THREE CARDINALS HAVE AN UNREALISTIC APPROACH TO GREAT PROBLEMS FACING WORLD TODAY. SOURCE SAID ELECTION OF ANYONE OF THREE COULD DEPEND ON INFLUENCE OF AMERICAN CARDINAL SAND VOLUNTEERED SUGGESTION U.S. AUTHORITIES WOULD DO WELL EXERCISE DISCREETLY “THEIR OWN INFLUENCE ON CERTAIN AMERICAN CARDINALS.”